Hey Steve:
We corresponded about a year ago, when we first got our cart on our arrival to the Spokane,WA area where my wife grew up. Me myself am a lifelong beach boy from Northern California (SF Bay Area) so having to actually wear pants in winter has been a new experience and challenge for me to say the least lol. Im easy to spot here, as I am the only idiot out here wearing shorts while I’m outside shoveling snow lol.
Anyway Steve I mentioned in our last correspondence last year, that before we moved here with are two girls ages 4 and 12, I spent the last 22 years as a Senior Homicide Inspector in the Bay Area. I have always been a very physically athletic guy my whole life, and I was enjoying a very successful and rewarding career. Needless to say Steve, that all quickly changed a few years back, when at age 43, I sustained a near fatal aneurism which left me hospitalized for nearly three months. Because of the specific physical demands of my career, reality was I was going to have to retire which I officially did last year.
Needless to say Steve this was a very scary endeavor and unfamiliar waters for me, but its sorta funny how fate and crisis really gets your creative juices flowing. After spending all those years in an environment that would make most people pissed, and sick, I decided I just wanted to be a normal guy and do something “normal”, because I started my career at age 20 and never really had a chance to know what “normal” was as the job jades you quite quickly. We mulled over several ideas including kettle corn etc, but for some reason I told my wife out of the blue “Lets get a hog dog cart”. I then started my endless days of researching everything hot dogs, then came up with a name “Bubbadogz”, affectionately after my father-in-law “Big Bubba” who is a real popular guy in these parts. Up to this point Steve the only food experience either one of us had was I was a bus boy while in High School, and my wife was a waitress while in College, but that’s about it. I did know the fact I was a self admitted clean and organization freak that relished (no pun intended) tradition, and everything old school was going to play an integral part in our start up success. There was one little caviat I was banking on, and that was using some of my childhood experiences hanging out in my grandfathers two SF beachfront amusement parks when I was kid. There was a lot of shiny stainless steel and the colors yellow and red in both parks and I remember those colors were like a magnet to a kid then. There’s something to be said about those colors I guess alas McDonalds, In-and-Out Burger etc. This is the reason I tried to stick with that color scheme as well. Even Ronald McDonald wears those two colors.
Anyway Steve we have enjoyed a lot of success here in a short amount of time, and now we only do special event stuff due to a hectic softball schedule with our girls etc. which quite honestly Steve is just fine with us.
I wanted to write this because I noticed a lot of new folks from all walks of life popping up in our forums that seem to be looking for a little motivation and start up advice on their new endeavor. I’m no expert and no one special by any means Steve, and I quickly gained a tremendous amount of respect and admiration for all those who do this for a living because its not just about buying a cart and just cooking hot dogs in it. I quickly learned its a lot of hard work and takes a lot of determination and ingenuity to make it work. I think a lot of people come into this thinking they can just sell hot dogs and make a few hundred bucks a day, then quickly get discouraged and their cart ends up on Ebay. While some actually do, there’s a lot more to it that goes on and those who do that amount per day, work their butts off for it between the cleaning, prep work etc. If your new and reading this, your sometimes looking at 14 to 15hrs a day 6 to 7 days a week so take a minute and really think what your getting into first.
My message here is never give-up, and take advantage of the awesome forums and social media outlets available to you. Also don’t take short cuts on your food to save a few bucks and risk a bad reputation, because with the social media outlets such as Yelp. Urbanspoon, etc out there now, your literally pulling the rug out from under your feet, and you’ll be out of business in a hurry. I’ve seen these guys at fairs etc literally selling one dollar sub-par hot dogs on hot dog rollers. They never get invited back again. So think like a consumer (which you are as well), and think about what attracts your attention, then follow your own instincts and standards and you’ll be on the right path.
I guess I can go on and on Steve as this is already long winded. The real heros out there, are the ones out there everyday rain or shine doing this for a living. We had an old cliche in my office and it was “My day begins when yours ends”. I had numerous 30 plus hour days over the years, but nothing I did ever measured up to the amount of physical labor like these doggers out there do everyday.
In closing, if your new to doggin or thinking about doing it, be diligent and relentless with your research before you do anything. Take advantage of the many social media forums out there such as HDCN, Facebook, Roadfood.com etc. The people on these forums are from all over the U.S. and are probably the most generous and helpful people you’ll ever meet or talk too in any industry hands down. You’ll be pleasantly surprised at all the different backgrounds these folks have. Anywhere from Doctors,Teachers, Lawyers, Electricians, Engineers, etc, etc the list is endless.
Anyway Steve hope somebody might find this helpful.
Best wishes and “Carpe Diem”
Matt Wasteney-Owner/Founder “Bubbadogz”
Liberty Lake, WA 99019
Hey Matt I appreciate the very helpful and inspiring story. You are definitely making a difference.
WOW! great story and advice.Thanks Matt and thanks Steve.nice pep talk with a shot of realism.
How about a picture of the cart! Great message for all! Thanks Matt
AWESOME……!!
So true.
Thank you so much for telling your story. I just started my Hot Dog Cart Biz. I enjoy it very much. I sell my dogs in front of 2 stores on weekends, seems to do ok. I jusst need a during the week location. I use to be an ice cream man many years ago. I enjoy people and I am selling a quality product. Any thoughts for increasing sales would be very appreciative. I am in the
Ft Lauderdale, Fl area. 60 years old and could not find a job so I bought the cart and I am loving it…………..Larry’s Mister Hot Dog
I couldn’t have said it better! God bless you in your new career.
Hey Matt thanks for the letter and real advice. I am an ex-cop looking for a way to a sustained income since my stroke back in 2007. I will take heed your words of wisdom once I have the wherewithall to get started.
Matt,
Enjoyed all your readings here. I’m sure alot of people will find this helpfull.
This article was soooo inspiring. I’m waiting for a commissary to have space for me, which will be in a couple of weeks, then I can get my cart inspected. I have been working towards this goal for about a year now. At times I get discouraged waiting, but reading HDCN keeps me going. Again, thanks MATT and Steve for the motivation.
Steve, I actually have a question Whats a fair price for a commissary. I have a full time job and work the cart Once in a while on a corner mostly Special events. This year I’m doing a Big Motorcycle Rally and i have no clue what stock to buy for this event. 4 day event prob. 15-20 food vendors 20,000-30,000 people Plz help
Hey Art,
I have never paid for a commissary. I just offer to advertise their business on my cart, tow vehicle, flyers, business cards, etc. Advertising is more expensive than rent, so they come out ahead.
-Steve
Love the story, you get out of it, what you put into it. Getting ready to go to the next level myself. It’s all about the home-work; county, city etc.. Even the commissary situation is diffrent between county and city.
Art, like Steve said, commissary was easy for me. Just let you’re friends and family know what you need. My brother has a friend of his that owns a bar. Will hand out some discount cards for drinks for the bar.
Steve, i too look forward to the news letter….
Thanks for your insight Matt…
Awesome read and everything you said is true! Gotta stay committed, ride out the down times and enjoy the good but remember, never sell yourself short and never skimp on quality!
Very inspirational story ! Like to see a photo of your cart, and/or you in shorts shoveling snow !
Great story. If it is your dream there will be no giving up. I am in the final steps with the county to getting approved. I will be a weekend slinger but I am fine with that. If you have a passion for it that it is all worth it. Thanks for sharing.
Art,
I been through that! Here’s what I did; I offered to pay 1/2 (50%) of the Commisary’s State Inspection Fee.
What works good about that… take $275 and divide it by 12! A good easily to reach number, and… they think they are getting a good deal when you say “I’m willing to pay”!
Great angle Gary!
Weekends are great for slingin’ Ed. You’ll love it!
Uncle Frank,
I’m with you. I want to see the snow shorts.
Esteban,
Habla la verdad mi amigo!
It will all be worth it Darrell. You’ll get there!
Right on Country. Great angle!
This is for Larry D in Ft. Lauderdale.
Hey Larry the only advice I can give anybody is make every customer feel like a friend, sell a good dog, and be clean.
I use my experienece as a kid in a military family on a really tight budget. We didnt have the best and nicest things, but we really took care of them and people actually thought we had alot of money because how clean our house was and how we cared for ourselves and things. I use this philosophy as my business model and it works. As an example people rave about our EZ-UP we use for special events. I bought it at Big Lots for 60 bucks!
Hope this helps somewhat Larry!
Matt
Wise words Matt ! It is more work than people think. Best of luck to you.
May the wind be in your SALES !! Arrrgg !!
1st mate Jim.
I am lucky on the commisary thing since all I need is a place to store drinks, dogs, chips and, buns. Although, if the HD decides I need to have a commisary I can use the camp I work part time at, or one of the three veterans clubs I belong to. Check on your church if they have a kitchen sometimes a deal can be worked out with them.
ART; If I were doing that event(MC Rally) I only sell dogs drinks and chips, the buyer puts on the toppings(relish ketchup(!!) and different mustards)
I would have enough for at least 1200 people or more over the three day period. Esp. if you have the lowest price food. Also, be ready to buy more if needed. best of luck hope the info helps.
Well, I can only say BINGO Matt. I have been dogging parttime since 2009 and boy did you hit it on the head. I guess I am the strange one because I really don’t do this for the money. I too am retired and I also have a fulltime job and I do my Dogging when I have time. Yes, I have time, I was at my steet spot 36 times last year, about 3 hours each day, and 23 Special events from Birthday parties, Festivals, Fund Raisers, Parades, Coorprate events, and even a Bar-b-Q cookoff or two. I must admit that I normally only work 14 days a month. I think that hotdogging; even with all the work it requires gives me time that I can rest. My plan was to slow down this year but it is hard because this month I slowed down and had people calling me and wanting me to set because they were hungry for my doggs. The weather in the south allows me to go out about every month. There is a lot of things that people don’t see in this business but the best thing that I see is when a small child comes running up and says: “Look there’s the HOT DOG GUY”!!!! or “That’s not how you spell “DOGG”.
Duggs Doggs
Good!! Good!!
Thanks for taking your time out,and writing a great article.I really enjoyed it…………………….
Very cool and great to see more of us on the positive side of this business when it is extremely hard, Hot, and sometimes not finacially great we are hostages to the weather in most instances but well done Matt and thanks for reminding me why im here in the Dogoshere as our host calls it LOL. also to Art first be extremely greatful that you have an opportunity to be exposed to an event with 10 to 20,000 people! secondly you need to know your competition, are all vendors selling hot dogs or just you? with that said you should think that 1 to 3% of entire crowd may by your food so you need to have alot of coolers, or xtra Fridgerator, do you have electric? next what size hotdogs do you sell? that will allow you to count how many come in your 5lb pkgs do you work and research but from my recent experience i would say have at least 1,500 hot dogs and buns on hand if you are only hot dogger if not for every one there subtract 300 also know your placement and have your signiage why buy your hot dogs and not other guys, also make sure you purchase alot of soda and doublet that for water so in reality space and access to it is possibly your real competition, good luck please write us and let us all know how you did.
Great tips Allen! Thank you!
I’m just getting started and can use all of the help I can get, and this I found very helpfull. I am currently looking for a concession trailer, if anyone has a line on one at a reasonal price I would be glad to hear from you. Thanks again Steve for HDCN and all of you for your inspiring words.
My pleasure Ed! Welcome aboard!!!
Stories like this really help with the research you need to do before you take the leap of faith. I am finding it is not just go sell dogs.There are hurdles but with planning it can be done.Really appreciate this form.
Thanks Mark. Let me know how I can help you!
When one door closes, another opens.