This is a special edition of Hot Dog Cart News
HDCN has become a true community where readers are more than happy to help each other by sharing experiences and advise. Thank you all for being here twice a week and sharing!!! Now it’s time to step up to the plate.
One of our own is getting HOSED in Yuba City, CA and we can help.
Paul “Fat Daddy” Kaiser is a hot dogger in Yuba City. He just sent me an email describing his situation and asking for help..
Hey Steve,
I’ve been following your blog for about 4 months now… GREAT STUFF!
I’m a hot dogger in the Nor-Cal Area and I have a story you may be interested in.
I “had” been granted a permit to operate in Yuba City Calif for over two months now and made a transition to full time about a month ago. During that time a local coffee shop expressed that they don’t want me down here and made every effort to have me removed. We’ll they succeeded and the city revoked my permit stating they made a mistake???
It made front page news and we are now working on a petition and have community support and are going to be approaching City Council in the upcoming weeks.
Paul A. Kaiser, Owner/Operator
Fat Daddy’s Frankfurters
www.FatDaddysFranks.com
Here’s what you need to do:
1. Read the story which appeared on the front page of his local paper. I reprinted it below for your convenience.
2. Sign Paul’s online petition at the end of the story. You don’t need to enter your address, just your name. You’ll see a link to the petition at the end of the story. Paul needs every signature he can get. Right now he has about 200. I know that we can easily push that to over 2000 in just ONE DAY… we have the numbers!
Some day you may be the one who needs help. Today it’s Paul.
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Wiener Salesman Kaiser Bites Back With Petition
Controversy is heating up over a Plumas Boulevard hot dog stand.
Until Monday, Paul Kaiser had sold a variety of hot dogs from Fat Daddy’s Frankfurters near the Town Center for about a month. But Yuba City revoked his permit after a series of complaints that led to the re-examination of city codes.
“What’s happening is archaic, that someone can call and stop free
enterprise,” Kaiser said.
The underlying issue is whether that type of use is appropriate in the
downtown, said Aaron Busch, director of community development. Fat Daddy’s
Frankfurters’ permit was issued in error because the use is not consistent
with the Central City Specific Plan. The plan, which was last updated in
1992 and is specific to the general downtown area, states that food
services are conditionally permitted and only within enclosed buildings.
But the vendors section of the Municipal Code gives an exception when a
permit is issued by the Police Department. That is how Kaiser obtained his
permit.
“Is that our fault?” Busch said. “Absolutely. We had an old ordinance in
place.”
One call to the city came from Willem Vonk, the owner of nearby Has Beans
coffeehouse. He, like others, inquired about the legality of Kaiser’s cart
when other vendors’ requests had been denied. Vonk also sees Fat Daddy’s
Frankfurters as unfair competition.
“I can’t compete with somebody that has no overhead but himself,” Vonk
said. “Nobody can compete with a vendor. My revenue dies as soon as he
shows up”.
HDCN editors note: This tired argument is often used in cases like this.
It is 100% B.S. Someone who wants a deli sandwich is not going to buy a
hot dog. They’re going to get a sandwich and buy the hot dog a few days
later when they feel like a hot dog. The “no overhead” argument is B.S.
too because our prices are competitive with those of other restaurants
serving similar products. We don’t engage in price cutting, we just have
better margins. -Steve
Soon after setting up his cart and rainbow umbrellas on Plumas Boulevard,
Kaiser came to the coffe shop to introduce himself.
Vonk explained business would be easier if Fat Daddy’s Frankfurters was
not so close, but Kaiser was determined to keep his spot, Vonk said.
“So I said ‘I guess we’re gonna have a hot dog war, OK?’” Vonk said.
Now, Has Beans patrons can order an all-beef hot dog, polish dog or
variety of gourmet sausages for $3.25. For $1.75 more, customers can add
chips, a pickle spear and a 16-ounce iced tea.
Fat Daddy’s Frankfurters’ dogs, which include Chicago, New York and
Louisiana styles, mostly sell for $3.75, or $5.50 if customers add chips,
a drink and a cookie.
But even with Has Beans seating, air conditioning, free wireless Internet
and a larger menu options, the coffeehouse cannot compete, Vonk said.
“I can offer something to the nurses, but I cannot give it away,” he said.
And now, the controversy is hurting business further.
“The nurses are mad at us now because we are hammering on the little guy,”
Vonk said. “I am a little guy myself.”
Jan Kraus, who works in a neighboring medical office, is one former Has
Beans customer reconsidering her patronage.
“I don’t care for people who try to take my choice away,” she said. “And
people can’t eat hot dogs every day for god’s sake.”
Kraus would love to see a variety of vendors dotting the streets near
Plumas Boulevard.
“I think it makes it happier,” she said. “Vendors change the atmosphere.
The more the merrier I think.”
On Thursday, Kaiser and his bright rainbow umbrellas returned to his
Plumas Boulevard spot, but instead of hocking hot dogs, he was slinging
requests for signatures to petition the city to let him keep his business.
“It’s not my fault,” he said. “I should not be punished because the (city)
and their offices did not know what they were doing. I should be
grandfathered in.”
Amber Hinshaw and Stacy Luster stopped to add their names as they passed
by on their way to work in the nearby medical buildings.
“There’s no reason why he shouldn’t be here,” Hinshaw said. “That’s like
saying. ‘Oh, don’t get a job.’”
Kaiser said he has gone through the same procedure as any other business,
securing his permits and licenses and modifying his equipment.
“The only difference is I am not a brick and mortar,” he said. “If I had a
storefront here, there would be no argument.”
The revocation of Kaiser’s permit is permanent, but the city is
considering other options for Fat Daddy’s Frankfurters, such as operating
inside one of the buildings, Busch said.
Busch said he does not know why the discrepancy was not caught earlier.
Vendor location is clearly a zoning issue, not a traffic matter.
Plans to re-evaluate the city’s laws regarding cart vendors are under way,
including giving the Planning Department jurisdiction for those kinds of
approvals, he said.
Kaiser does not know if his family will survive the financial strain of
not being able to operate his business.
“I left my job to do this. I’m gonna lose my house, and everything because
of a good-faith agreement.”
June 18, 2009 12:01:00 AM By Ashley Gebb/Appeal-Democrat
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There are over 140 comments on this story, all of them overwhelmingly in favor of Mr. Kaiser. In fact many folks have stated that they will no longer patronize the coffee shop. WOOT!
Now it’s time to head on over and sign Paul’s online petition. Just put in your name, the other fields are not required. Click Here to Save Fat Daddy’s Franks!
Thanks all!
-Steve
stay up fat daddy!!
Keep your head up Fat Daddy it could just awell been on of us. They need to remember u run a bussiness just like they do to support your family also Good Luck Frank
All commenters – Be sure to sign the petition at
http://www.gopetition.com/online/28658.html
It’s important!!!
-Steve
If we don’t hang together, then surely we will hang apart. – Patriot Patrick Henry (I think) 🙂
You have my signature!!!! Good luck!
With the problems CA has, why would they want to stop a money making, tax paying business on a technicality?
Stick with it Fat Daddy. Put this on Facebook, My Space, Digg and stumble upon. You’ll end up being a cult hero!
Stay polite and dig in.
this is such typical bureaucratic mentality … the economy is in the crapper, people are getting laid off left and right, folks are losing their homes, jobs, retirement, kid’s education … and what the elected officials come up with just puts one more guy out of work.
when will they wise up and realize that the fate of the country depends on just the kind of ingenuity that opens a righteous business and helped build they economy they’re all so hell-bent on destroying?
it just steams me. [and i’m not talking about the good way … topped with condiments!]
GOOD LUCK! YOU GO GET ‘EM, FAT DADDY!!
— hannalisa
Tom – Awesome ideas!!!
Don’t forget Twitter!
I already tweeted this and put it on my Facebook page.
Everyone with a Facebook or Myspace page post this!
-Steve
I signed and posted it on my facebook! Word will get out. You go Fat Daddy!
The one who gives up, looses. Hang in there guy, I believe there is a solution, we just have to agree to what it is going to be! This is a free country and small businesses are what makes the economy stronger. That coffee guy is just jealous that he didn’t think of a hot dog cart!!!
Hang in there fat daddy hes just pissed because you did it with out the same investment he has and hes losing customers we live in america and it good for businesses and customers I signed goodluck
Fat Daddy,
Best of luck and please keep us posted. I am adding a link to the petition on my facebook page
Bureaucrate’s Bureacrate’s Can’t Live With Them and Can’t Live With Them.
They need to wake up and look at the small man trying to make a nickel.
All I have to say is they need to be but in their place by the small man and they need to get a life.
Power is in numbers. You’ve got numbers. Lets go for it!!!!
Already signed up. Don’t give up Fat Daddy, we’re all behind you, cuz if this go through it’s just a matter of time before they start messing with everyone else. Just cannot believe that at a time like this people want to act like a bunch of selfish fools. Coffee guy is jealous and regrets of not thinking outside the box and invest in a hot dog cart. Good luck!!!
If an error was made by the city as stated, who in the city will loose there job / or will free enterprise prevail.
I signed the petition good luck
Keep fighting cities always greese the squeeky wheel. If Fat daddy served poor food the coffee shop guy wouldn’t care. Evidently the dogs are good and people are responding.
I am on my way to the city council tonight for a request to park my cart at the local parks and city owned lake. This will be good because nobody has ever done this in my neck of the woods. Hold on to your buns!
Hint: Investigate “restraint of trade.”
Best wishes, I put my signature in for your support!
How sad that in the ‘land of opportunity’ that the little guy is treated like the plague.
There’s plenty for everyone. I hope that the coffee shop remembers that ‘what goes around, comes around….”
Right ALWAYS prevails.
Good luck!
You have my support and signature, Hang in ther ,Buddy. I went through 2 months of the Politics in my town, where i was born and raised, i got licensed and approved, but my Lord, it was fustrating. Im an honest busniess man, not a dealer, or robber! In this day and age,you would think our communities would embrace honest hard workers.
makes me want to open a coffe shop yea right
go hotdoggers, I’m so sick and tried of city council members who are so scared of the brick and mortor shops, don’t they know we can fight back just as well. and we have to start fighting back people, there are a lot of hotdoggers out there that are getting screwed by city government, let’s here the story and see what can be done! GO FAT DADDYS try to hang in there. BOYCOTT HAS BEANS EVERYONE
WOW!! America….Fat Daddy will be OK! He stands up for what he beleaves and is not doing wrong to any one. For the business owners that are making it hard for Mr. Fat Daddy remember Karma is a B….!
Many Blessings to all!
Remember everyone, it’s great for you to sign this but also remember that you can have your spouses and family members sign too. This can give Paul aka, “Fat Daddy” more power!!!
Sounds like breech of contract on Yuba City’s part. If they don’t reinstate your permit then I think you should get a lawyer. Keep track of what it costs to fight this, including lost income. You may get it back later.
Thanks Steve and thanks for the all the support guys!
I’m not giving up on this one, the support is great… We go to city council meeting in two weeks…
Thanks Again,
Paul “Fat Daddy” Kaiser
Fat Daddy– My wife and I both signed the petition.It was our HONOR to do so. BEST WISHES AND LUCK TO YOU AND YOUR WONDERFUL FAMILY. WE’LL BE PRAYIN FOR YOU SIR.
This is the kind of thing that we need to fight more for in this country. Two things come to mind about Vonk and his coffee house losing business. 1) Had he supported Bid Daddy’s in some way, he would not only be helping his “fellow” entrepreneur, but he would be keeping his own loyal customers. Heck, he could have even worked in some deal where they both gave away coupons to each other’s businesses and gained even more market share! 2) Not only is he hurting free enterprise, his own business and the diversity of his town, but he has just hurt someone’s livelihood. Kaiser may lose his home over this when he did everything the city asked of him. Vonk should Kaiser find a new location if he can’t be downtown.
I wonder how soon it will be before Vonk decides that the Hot Dog business is a better business than his coffee house. I hope he doesn’t need help when/if he goes down that road. There are many I can see who would not lift a finger. I guess an eye for an eye plays itself out in many areas of life….
I am definitely signing that petition.
Well, I did sign the peition and I also called Mr. Vonk’s place of business. They were closed but I did leave a message stating how I felt about the situation. No, I was not rude but at this point, as far as I know, I am still allowed freedom of speech. Hang in there Fat Daddy!
Steve, do we have a support fund set up for Mr. Kaiser? I cannot donate much but I would like to help. Mr. Kaiser does need to be able to sustain his family for the next couple of weeks since it will be that long before the city council meets.
Thanks,
Cindy
FatDaddy – a quote for you, remember…. it’s not about how hard you hit it. It’s about how hard you can get it and keep moving forward. How much you can take and keep moving forward. That’s how winning is done!
Keep moving forward fat daddy!!!!
Good Luck. Keep us all posted to the stauts. You have my signature too!
What if he were selling apples in todays economy? Would that be ok? Small capitalist fear capitalism if it hurts their wallet. If the coffee shop owner believes in free markets then he has a choice of sitting down, having a cup of java and watch it work right before his eyes or stand up work his business in a free market system and focus on all of his competitors, his business model / plan and how he is different. Brick and motar businesses, sometimes the brick refers to dumb as.
I am so happy to see the hotdoggers around the country showing this kind of support for one of our own.
Though my cart has not yet been delivered yet
(another week week and half ) I have been around the towns in my area trying to get information on whats good and bad for business. They have all been very helpful. It is a great bunch of people selling dogs.
Paul hang in there and fight a good fight. Wit all the support you have you can only win. God Bless and God Speed
Paul just wanted to let you know I called The City Council and told them how upset I am over there decision to pull your permit. I also asked if they have been receiving many phone complaints and she stated it was overwhelming. You GO Guy
Here is the phone # for the Yuba City Town Council 530 822-4601. Let’s all invest a couple of minutes and the cost of a phone call and let them know we support Paul and Fat Daddy’s Frankfurters This is not just Paul’s fight, this is a fight for all vendor cart operators. A fight we can win if we fight as one.
Thanks again guys!
No support fund needed we have plenty of Farmers markets to work this time of year. I am just worried for when we hit the winter months and I’m not established.
MAKE THE CALLS! MAKE THE CALLS!
530-822-4601
THAT IS THE BEST SUPPORT OUTSIDE OF PRAYER ONE CAN GIVE!
You have our support 110%. Don’t you get discouraged! You will win in the end. You are trying to make an honest living to provide for your family. How dare they! You don’t even have to ask me to sign! We are in this together. All for one! One for all! Praying for you!!!!!!!!!!
GO FAT DADDY! Keep up the good fight. One thing that i do not understand is…Why does a city in Cali, considering their terrible economy and unemployment rates, make it hard for a succesful business to generate tax revenue for them. It sounds to me like someone has their panties in bunch. You got my signature. I was told by the Town Council of Yuba City, that they are not eliminating his business, they have an ordinance that makes street vendors move. They can not be stationary. Have you seen this mans rig? How, after he is issued the Permit, can they then say he can not be there. We are with you Paul. If i were you I would go into the ordinaces and see what violations our neighborhood coffehouse is committing. remeber fight fire with fire. Noone is perfect. i would point that out. Also have you looked into the Good Faith laws in your state? Are the people involved acting in good faith? You can bring alot of heat right back onto them. make them have
to start paying a lot of legal fees they just may cave. How much of a budget surplus do they have? Bleed it dry. Make them do a little explaining of their own. Paul, we are with you, stick it to Yuba City then go find someone who sees a good idea and will use it to its full potential. Yuba City should not make two mistakes to correct one. Is it Paul’s fault that people like his Wiener more then this other person’s coffee?
Tim
Get Grilled Foods
Good news guys!
Your calls and the buzz in the community has prompted the Mayor to call and set up a private meeting prior to the City Council meeting coming up on July 7th.
She stated “We would like to sit down and discuss the matter further. We have never delt with this type of situation and we are trying to get educated…”
Thanks for your support and keep the calls coming!
Fatdaddy- you got my signature & you got my prayers. Keep the faith-
Jim Seidler
‘GoodDog’
Tennessee
Fatdaddy- you got our signatures too…from my cart. We can see McDonalds, Wendy’s, BoJangles, Captains D’s and an I Hop. And across the street there is a Walmart with another McDonald’s on the inside. My sale are good …..If the coffee shop is having a problem because sales are down….I can tell you from here …..you were not his problem. (of course, you are now). Keep us posted and go get them.
Wow, fatdaddy you have all of our support, behind you, i signed the petition also and look foward to your victory when it comes. As for coffee man hes a poor excuse of a good business man and has to blame his loss on fatdaddys well running business that puts him to shame.
Sign your petition?…. YOU BET!!! Already Done sir.
Don’t worry Kaiser… One thing ALL city council members fear MORE than a piss poor Brick n Mortar owner is their city FULL of pissed off voters. We hate it when we see a big guy try to hurt a little guy… or in this case a “Big” little guy 🙂 The council will NOT want to be viewed as being on the side of that Bean Butthead. Bet you $5.00 (or a dog and drink) you get your permit back.
Still thinking about your situation and am praying it all works out in your favor. I do not see how it can’t
As a future Dawger, please get all of these issues worked out for me please…lol…:)…I need to know how to take care of these kinds of issues, as the children would say…:)…seems to me that there is a tightly knited family going on here…:) You hang tuff and stay true to the word, be the head and not the tail…
Paul just wanted to wish you luck at the meeting with the mayor tomorrow.
Please keep us posted.
Paul How did the meeting go?
Tim
Get Grilled
I found this because we have not heard from Paul. Just thought I would share.
http://www.appeal-democrat.com/news/city-84150-yuba-kaiser.html
GO FAT DADDY!!!JUST SIGNED!! I’M A NEWBEE.BEEN DRAGGING MY FEET TO GET STARTED IN THIS BIZ.BUT SEEING HOW YOU ALL STICK TOGETHER AND HELP EACH OTHER THAT HELPED ME MAKE UP MY MIND.JUST BOUGHT STEVE’S BOOKS AND EZ BUILD.
Paul whats the latest it has been a long time since we heard from you. Or has Arnold gaged you. Would love to hear how things stand.