Hi Steve,
I really liked Howard’s Coca-Cola nostalgia theme on his E-Z Built hot dog cart.
Question for you though — and anyone else for that matter. In fact, Steve you may want to do a separate thread on this if it hasn’t already been done.
When I get going, up here in Maine, I plan to also do crabmeat and lobster rolls along with hot dogs so a cold container is a must. I’d like to keep it around 34 to 39 degrees Fahrenheit.
What’s the best container to do that with: Rubbermaid, Yeti or some other?
And what about using re-freezable blue ice packs by Rubbermaid as opposed to cube ice.
Can I successfully monitor that temperature level with a remote wireless temperature gauge?
Any thoughts on keepin ‘em cold would be welcomed by any and all. And again, Howard, as we say up here, that’s a wickard goood-lookin’ cahrt.
A.J.
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My goodness does that look delicious!
This is something I haven’t had to tackle before. Assuming your health department would allow it, how would you keep it cold? Any thoughts slingers?
-Steve
LP gas fridge. Google it.
Yep.
A. J. I do something similar with shrimp here in Florida and you are correct that your refrigeration will be the key to both the product and the health inspector. I use the Rubbermaid blocks for keeping items such as flatbreads and other non critical items that we just like to keep cool. I find that the blocks are not as good as ice however for the critical items such as dogs, sausages, shrimp etc. I keep my shrimp which are IQF in a gallon zip lock bag and immerse them in ice. They stay partially frozen through an 8 hour show and I have not waste as even the unused are semi frozen at the end of the day and so are reusable the following day if it’s a two day event. The biggest problem with the crab and lobster salads will be the mayonnaise. The health department will be looking very closely at your temperatures. I make several sauces for use with my shrimp tacos and a remoulade sauce also. I use a non-dairy non egg product mayonnaise. There are several available and with all the spices I used as well as the taste of the lobster in your case I doubt anyone would know the difference and it would give your product more stability. Good luck with your venture.
Great advice Dick! Thank you so much.
I learned something years ago when i started doing nascar races and cooking chicken. I use only a thick wall foam cooler for this type of meats made by LoBoy. Not those cheap thin coolers. LoBoy makes foam coolers that are as strong as plastic coolers and the ice last for days, not hours. Does not sweat or leak. I use these coolers only for meats. I also use ice for these coolers from sonic. They will sell you bagged ice and it last 5 times longer than cubed ice. Matter of fact even if you didn’t have a LoBoy foam cooler, if you use Sonic ice it will last a lot longer than cubed anyway. www.lowboy.com (888)243-1112
I never knew that about Sonic. Good to know! (By the way Kenny, I’m about to get started on that thing we were talking about two days ago. Should be fantastic.)
PS The link you posted isn’t working, update me if you can.
Providing your health board will allow, I suggest a small refrigerator. Get yourself a deep cell battery and an inverter. The refrigerator won’t draw enough amps that it wouldn’t last all day. Charge the battery at night and plug the refrigerator into your home or commissary electricity.
I think a fridge is a good option on any cart, no matter what foods you serve. I don’t have one on my personal cart but there are times I wish I did. I know it would open up a lot more possibilities as far as what my HD will allow me to sell. Thanks Jack!
Aye mate, that’s one great idea AJ !! I would sail for a lobster boat any day.
As well as many return trips !! Another cooler option would be to use block ice.
Blocks arrrrre about 5 pounds each & will last for days in a good cooler.
If the bilge rats will let you do it, your treasure of the sea should bring you much booty !!
You could even call them sea dogs !! Har har har !!
Besy of luck to ye matey & may the wind be in your sales.. Arrrrrggg !!
1st mate Jim.
Ye speech gets saltier by the day, me bucko. Aye, five pounders in the locker should keep yer wares colder than a ‘nor easter. Arrrgh!
Aye salty indeed !! The salt be sister to the sand. Don’t take long for they be in yer blood. And yer bunk, yer clothes & yer underwear !! Arrrrrggg !! Me hates when that happens !!
1st mate Jim.
True, true, me swab. Takes a high tide a’fore the old barnacles stop botherin’ ye.
You guys are hilarious, thanks for the morning laugh.
Next cart will be sporting a refrigerator, custom built into side.
Want to include a larger ice chest as well.
This will be my winter project.
Steve, web site is slowly getting there, want it to look real nice.
Can’t wait to see your new cart Dale – also can’t wait to see your new website!
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Talk to some of your local distributors of soft drinks and find out what they do with their small refrigerators they display in quick stops and stores. If they quit they don’t usually fix them just dispose of them. I found one and it had a leak cost $150.00 to fix and they are commercial grade. It is seventeen inches wide and twenty six high. Glass door and doesn’t take hardly any power to run. It is built into my cart (sorry steve i finished my cart just haven’t sent pics yet). Anyway, has worked great for me.
Clancy
Wow. This is a goldmine tip slingers. Jump on this info.
Thanks Clancy, you’re the greatest! And send me those pictures, I’m dying to see what you did with your E-Z Built hot dog cart plans.
Once again, proof that the best slingers in the dogosphere are here on the HDCN!!!
Hi, I have been doing A LOT of lobster rolls here in Maine for the past 2 years.
After checking the requirements, the next most important issue is to keep “highly perishable” foods below 36f. I know Servsafe says below 40 f. but you are dealing with a highly perishable product. It can be done using below 0 degree f gel packs. I use -10 f. The thermal mass of the gel packs should be equal to 1/3 of the ALREADY cold product you want to keep cold. Our average temps are below 35 f.
This technique works well with me regardless of the ambient temperature.
I use a small indoor/outdoor thermometer with the probe in the insulated cooler that came with the cart for continuous monitoring.
This is great info Carl. Thanks!
they sell small freezer kits for boats 12v.
Thanks Walli! Good tip.
not cheep but the best and NSF – Edgestar
Cadillac fridge.
I great source for a fridge is your local RV/camper dealer. Quite often they do “re-placements” for upgrades and the old one they take out still have life in them. They run off propane and or electricity. Their size makes them perfect for a cart install and cost is usually a $1-200.00. The propane version is really handy:-).
Super great tip TikiJava!!! Thank you!
but i do have a $50 wal-mart frig on my EZ-BUILD cart i use a car battery and power inverter to run it have run it 16hr no problems and i have a HF soler panel to keep battery up on top of water tower.
Nice! Send me pics of your E-Z Built hot dog cart Pete!
i will when i complet it with grafixs etc
Cool. Can’t wait to see it!!!
our local walmart sells dry ice that one could use. I try to stay away from ice one products because the water always seems to find a way in. One point i thought was different one HD says to only use blue ice(packs) the other county says ice is ok. go figure
sell em all
Go figure is right. That’s just a part of the hot dog biz!
Sell ’em all Jerry!
I got a small 2 stroke generator from Harbor Freight ($120.00) and now carry a small fridge with me for extra condiments and angus burgers cheese slices, lettuce, tomatoe, etc. It holds alot and HD off my back.
Nice!
All I can add is check with the health department for their requirements, I agree with a LP Freezer/Frig…
Duggs Doggs
Good!! Good!!
Yes, especially with potentially hazardous foods.
In California, all new carts require a refrigerator. I have a AC/DC/LP Rv rfrigerator on my cart. I purchased it new, just a few dollars under $600.00. It works great until the outside temp gets in the mid to high 90 degees. Then it struggles to keep its temp down to the 40 degree mark. It also needs alot of air circulation or ventilation around it. Which I think might be part of its difficulty. Also, the moment you turn off the house electricity, or LP gas, the temp goes up real fast.
Yes, air circulation is critical. Thanks Paul!
I used to have a hot dog cart up in Maine before I moved to SC and thought about doing the same thing. You need to read the food code book for Maine and read the regulations for seafood. It will make you rethink the lobster rolls. Having shellfish anywhere near hot foods is not recommended in their eyes. Talk to your local inspector and get his feel for it. Also talk to the inspector that covers the area you will be set up in just in case it is not the same person. They helped me a lot in getting me started and saved me money.
Best Wishes,
Frank’s Franks
Augusta, Maine
PS My cart is for sale if anyone is interested. It is located in Maine.
Thanks Frank. Good advice.